other stuff - free

I will be bringing the following items to the CAF soiree on Friday evening. They will be in the back of an orange Honda Fit. All are free since I can't use them easily when I move to Australia and I  would prefer not to throw them away at the dump.

All of the items were given to me or were free so I don't feel any obligation to make money from them.

There are three oscilloscope. I suspect they are not working but I don't seem to get on well with oscilloscopes.

HP Oscilloscope.

Heathkit.

Eico. It has tubes inside.

Three identical power transformers.

Since some markings are obliterated, you can work out the specs by looking at the three photos.

What appears to be an isolation transformer.

Transformer from an old Rolm phone switch that at one time I had visions of doing something with.

It weighs 40 lb.

Two rack mount cases made of some non-magnetic metal. Roughly 17 x 16 x 12.

31 of the 4" speakers that Roscoe appeared to use in his array. Number 32 is around somewhere and hopefully I can find it.

If you have any questions, let me know.

The other amplifier

I've started to take a look at the other amplifier which is more different from the first amp in that it is really two amps in one with one 12AX7 and two 6L6's for each amp. One amp feeds the output transformer on the top of the case (pedal) and the other amp feeds what appears to be a smaller output transformer inside the case (manual). The caps at the right hand end are multi-sectioned 40 / 40 @ 450v and a 100uf @ 50 volts.

Here is the top view. You may click on the image to enlarge it.

The view of the guts.

The right hand end. The transformer is the output transformer for the manual speaker. There is also a relay at the right hand end and I haven't worked out what it is for yet.

The middle. To the left is the choke.

The power transformer and the choke.

I found this schematic somewhere. It shows 7027 tubes being used instead of the 6L6's for the pedal amp. On my amp, I suspect the cathode caps for the 6L6's are the 100 uf 50 volt sections on the top mounted multi-section caps. The Sangamo coupling caps are 0.1uf 600v. The 10 watt green cathode resistors are 250 ohms for the manual amp and 200 for the pedal amp.

On one of the 6L6's for the pedal amp, there are 24.5 ohm resistors connecting pins 2 and 7 (heaters) to ground.

Below are photos of two more schematics.

The schematic above appears to be the same as the version above and may be easier to read.

The schematic above is similar but different in that 6L6's are specified for both pedal and manual amplifiers and the use of 1k grid resistors which I presume would be carbon composition. The coupling caps are shown as 0.022uf but I wonder if they are really 0.22uf.

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the choke rectifier

So the answer is:
This connection is a typical choke input filter even though the choke is situated in an unusual place.
Same circuitry is presented in Radiotron Designer's Handbook 4 Edition at page 1163 (fig. 30.1G). Here the choke is also located between ground and the center tap of power transformer. 


I've downloaded RDH4 from Pete Millet's site and here is the figure 30.1G

Restoring a couple of Baldwin 40 watt amplifiers - the beginning

Several years ago, Douglas Piccard and I started a small audio group that met in the Elkton MD library. We specialized in building tube amps and speakers and were loosely associated with the Bottlehead group. Though Doug has since left for the wilds of Detroit, the group is still active.

At one of the early meets, Doug kindly gave me some old organ amps for me to play with and while I have looked at them from time to time, I've never got around to doing anything with them. However, now is the time.

In particular, I have started to look at two of the beasts which are fairly similar. They both appear to be the Baldwin 40 watt models with a quad of 6L6 tubes. One is driven by an octal 6SL7 and the other by nine pin 12AX7's. First I am investigating the 6SL7 version. Here are some photos. You may click on the photos to see larger versions.

Some Baldwin history is available here.

The four larger tubes are 6L6 and the smaller one in front is a 6SL7.

The two empty octal sockets at the top left use 5U4-G rectifier tubes.

To the left is the power transformer, followed by the choke and the output transformer on the right. All have rust on them.

The 6 prong plug has the input.

Presumably the chassis number.

Each transformer comes with a number. This is actually a choke / inductor.

The massive power transformer with its number. The output transformer has the number 512-14633D. It is possible they were made by CinTran (see reference here)

Here are some photos of the guts.

The power transformer is on the right with the two 5U4 sockets just to the left.

The other end.

The area around the 6SL7 is quite congested. The four copper coils connect to the 6L6 plates and you find discussion about them here.

To the left is the hole for the leads to the choke.

I did find a schematic which looks pretty close to what is actually in this amplifier. My amp does not have the 6SQ7 input stage. Unfortunately I have not been able to find the schematic again on the web so if you know where it is, let me know.

As an aid to exploring the wiring, I have made a Visio version that I still haven't finished, but I will get there eventually.

There are some questions I have that have puzzled me.

1. When I first looked at the schematic, I noticed that the choke (2) was connected to the center tap of the power transformer and a 4uf capacitor. The other end is connected to ground instead of another capacitor. I thought this was probably a mistake in drawing the schematic, but it does connect to ground at a lug on a 6L6 socket.The choke has a DCR of 87 ohms. Any ideas?
2. Why did the designers place the capacitors at the far end of the amp from the rectifiers? The wires connecting the choke to ground and the 4 uf capacitor are twisted, but they do run right next to the input signal.
3. In the spirit of preservation, I'm not thinking of making any changes to the circuit or even the components except for possibly the electrolytic caps. The coupling caps seem to be ok and the carbon comp resistors appear to be reasonable close to value. Are there any other changes that I might contemplate?
4. My variac died recently. Any ideas for bring the beast back to life in a gradual fashion?
5. How to restore the finish for the steel casework? I did come across one interesting idea here which I will try in an inconspicuous area for the steel work. I tried polishing one up with polishing compound but it left uneven spots in it. The only true polish I had laying around was a bottle of Maguires PlastX clear plastic cleaner and polish. I use it on dust covers on my turntables. It takes the oxidation off of them and hides swirls and scratches. I tried it and it immediately turned my paper towels black with the oxidation. I wiped down a good size spot and cleaned it off and the metal really stood out. I used Old English lemon oil to recoat the metal and help remove the film left by the Maguires.
6.  Ideas for the rust on the transformers would be welcome.